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Experiences, Economy, Evolution: The Rise of The Transformation Economy

Season 2 · Episode 5 · 44:16

26 August 2025

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As experiences risk becoming commodities, Joe Pine — co-author of The Experience Economy and author of the forthcoming The Transformation Economy — joins hosts Janelle Visser and Stephen Joyce to discuss the next evolution of the economy. The episode explores how travel brands can design experiences that stand out, foster repeat business, and create not just memorable but transformational moments for guests.

With Special Guest: Joe Pine (Author, The Experience Economy and The Transformation Economy)

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